Vent!

WorkCover Venting:

  • To express (one’s thoughts or feelings about the workcover system, the way a claim is managed, a way a case manager behaves, for example), especially forcefully
  • an outlet: give vent to one’s anger
  • To vent one’s feelings or opinions

 

Synonyms: vent, express, utter, voice, air

These verbs mean to give outlet to thoughts or emotions…about all things workcover.

To workcover vent is to unburden oneself freely of a strong pent-up emotion!

workcover-furyWell, let’s face it, it happens to all of us. You received yet another lalala letter from your case manager, denying you a legitimate entitlement, delaying an MRI, CT, X-Ray, requesting “additional information” before being “able” to pay for your submitted physiotherapy account, whatever… and here you go… You start feeling stressed, anxious and terribly frustrated. Your spouse, partner doesn’t understand why you get all worked up about it and, worse, doesn’t want “to hear about it again”.

Finding a healthy way to vent can even help to relieve anxiety, something more and more of us, injured workers, are suffering from in these times. Those who don’t find a healthy way of venting often stuff it inside until they explode one day or get into the habit of finding ways to numb themselves, such as eating, or becomming totally disconnected from the wold. Venting can help to truly relieve stress.

Some additional  ways to vent out the frustrations, sadness, and anger that arise  as being on workcover

  1. Cry. When you feel deeply sad, crying works beautifully. Often when we cry, we want a shoulder to cry on. If none is available, cry to yourself. Either way, allowing yourself the space to cry can work wonders on freeing up the stored up pain inside that is too much to contain within. While crying connect with the pain you feel and cry into it.
  2. Punch. If you feel very angry, you may feel the desire to hit something. A very healthy way of exerting this powerful energy is to punch a pillow. Hit the pillow like it’s the person (i.e. case manager)/thing you are angry at. Yell and cuss at it as well if that helps to release that tension.  As you hit, smash into that frustration and feel exactly what aspects of it are making you angry.
  3. Write. Writing can help to clear the overwhelm of information in your head. It allows a pouring out of what is going on inside.. Some people enjoy tearing up the pages after they’ve written as a way to exert their frustration. In our forum we offer you the possibility to start your own workcover victims diary!
  4. Exercise. Some of your most frustrating days in your life may turn out to be your best days in the gym.Running, boxing and walking all allow great ways to vent. Unfortunately for most injured sods, including me, this is not possible.
  5. Talk. One injured workers told me the story of an injured nurse who rode the bus every day.  She would get on the bus and wait for a passenger to sit near. She’d ask if they minded listening to her and if not, she’d share her dilemma or story. Once she’d talked it out, she’d thank them and get off the bus!
  6. Create Art. What better to do than to channel this energy into creating something beautiful?
Come into the Vent! page  and just vent. Pouring out your feelings in an arena that is safe and where people understand you will help you find perspective and help you cope with unavoidable everyday frustrations.

 

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Hayley
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Rant; occupational rehab I have my chosen occupational rehab provider that I chose myself, yet my employer has bought in their own from the p2group who is consistently very difficult, aggressive and involved in everything. I have a permanent foot injury and am also very short and for months have been asking weekly for a higher footrest, today I finally had an Ergonomic assessment where the professional opinion was first to use the frame of the foot rest (a narrow bar that my foot slips off of and then finally this advice “maybe you should bring in a phone book… Read more »
Deluded
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@ Hayley I had to supply my own ergonomics when I worked in a Lab..I had to supply my own ergonomic drafting chair and my then work place supplied me with a kitty litter container taped to styrofoam to make the bench higher…lol . Then this sod who decided she didnt like the fact that i had quals and she didnt took it upon herself to make life difficult and hide my chair and throw my kitty litter box in the bins or throw it under the bench knowing full well i would have trouble retrieving it…I did eventually take… Read more »
Caitlyn
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phone books are heavier than what I’m allowed to carry according to the same rehab providers functional capacity report.
I feel like I’m in some kind of psychological experiment for how many dumb conversations I have to be involved in
before I snap

Deluded
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@ Caitlyn
welcome to the club lol glad most of us still have a sense of humour with all the dipsticks and the bs dribble we have to put up with…Thats why they are in these jobs no decent allied health organisation would hire them

MadChef
Guest

Anyone been sent a WorkSafe Survey letter for upcoming survey by Wallis Market and Social Research?
Seems like a joke as WorkSafe obviously never listen to or act on these surveys. Wonder how much money they waste on these?
Did one last year, this year I won’t be holding back or being so forgiving about Allianz this time.
They want the truth, well I’ll give it to them!
MadChef

Woowoo
Guest

@MadChef,
I gave them the truth about CGU last year, haven’t received one this year.
Maybe they didn’t like the negativity…

Deluded
Guest
Just thought i would check out FGU”S site what a ;oad of frog shit….. Since sending me to their lying bullshit under qualified IME and striking me off the books where I have had to pay for my own medical/surgeries etc… when I asked these fockers to help me with the sugical costs as it was them that insisted I see a surgeon and declined/refused to pay for it. These fockers have now taken it apon themselves since my 3 surgeries shot their reliance on their dodgy bullshitting under-qualified IME’s report to pieces… they have now decided to re-enter my… Read more »
one-legged skippy
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Beware IME Supp. Report Are you aware that these WC bastards keep requesting supplementary reports from all those dodgy IME’s you see. With info I have received last month, I found out that they have requested numerous reports from previous seen IME’s months and months later. You have no input, no appointment to attend and are never told about them. And it seems to be the most notorious IME’s that they use (of course) for this “follow up”. he questions being asked are once again for them to be able to drop your claim. If they can’t get the report… Read more »
one legged skippy
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Allianz you make me SICK with your self promoted goody-too-shoes approach to caring and helping about injured workers. And now at the bottom of another lying email I read “Allianz is a proud sponsor of the Australian Paralympic Committee” (-obviously not supporting injured workers who have become disabled). I just wanna puke reading that AND reading your website about how quickly you promise to return a worker to work, how much money you can save the employer and how you will always be there to help make the WC Claim as short and painless as possible for the employer. These… Read more »
one legged skippy
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I think someone should be writing a comprehensive letter about how disabled workers are treated by Allianz to the Australian Paralympic Committee.
They should seriously be looking at this kind of inappropriate backing-

porsche47
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So frustrating that insurers, vocational assessors and IME’s can write whatever they want about you whether it’s true or not and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it. I don’t mind coping flack for stuff I’ve done but when they can openly question your integrity and call you a liar and there is not much I can do about it, it’s so frustrating and makes me super angry!

Mad Chef
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Does this sound very very sus??
Desperate for advice on what you all think…
I am being sent to another IME appointment. This one is on a SATURDAY at 11am??? WTF. Mr Philip Sharp
Also can’t find this general surgeon registered in Vic (I’m in
SW Vic). My great Physio had a search and found a General Surgeon,same name registered in NSW.
Anyone ever seen an IME on a weekend?
I’m almost at the dreaded 130 week mark. I’m wondering if Allianz can manufacture further reasons for destroying my life?? Must email SCM and ask her (lol)

Workcovervictim3
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@Mad Chef – sadly many ‘notorious’ IMEs are flown interstate to deal with – ahum – more difficult cases.These FIFO IMEs are known to be pro-workcover (insurer). See: http://aworkcovervictimsdiary.com/2011/10/independent-medical-examiners-are-flown-in-interstate-and-are-paid-439-an-hour/ and http://aworkcovervictimsdiary.com/2012/09/workcover-is-using-costly-medical-experts-from-interstate-ann-bressington-mlc/ You may want to ask some questions to your case manager such as reason as why a NSW IME is used, his expertise in the field of your injury (say they’re plenty of local general surgeons – and general surgeons deal with warts, appendices, gall bladders etc, not orthopedic or back injuries etc). Ask if he is registered as a surgeon in Vic. Ask for his resume, reason for… Read more »
Mad Chef
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Thanks WCV3. I will be querying this I promise. Even my Physio thinks it is weird. I know it is related to the 130 week mark. I will be requesting an Orthopedic Surgeon, not a bloody General Surgeon- already been through that crap. Not sure what else I can demand for more info.Unlike conciliation, where the questions posed are given to us, what do you reckon could be asked? Will keep you all posted as to what I can painfully extract from my ever so helpful SCM/SAB (Senior Allianz B*tch).

porsche47
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I need to vent! I’m so sick of this stupid system, it does your head in! We want you back at work and believe your fit to return, however we’re not going to help you return to your current employment where you have all the equipment you need. We believe you can do a job identical to your pre injury employer, but not your job you were doing pre injury. We expect a new employer to take you on with permanent restrictions and get them to buy all the equipment you require, again I stress we are not going to… Read more »
Bashed and bullied
Guest

Make a complaint to WorkCover to see if the insurer and your employer are acting appropriately in refusing to return you to your workplace.

Porsche47
Guest
The last time I spoke to my training person she had me so mad I couldn’t speak. She rang to tell me that my training had been approved, even though I hadn’t applied for any and it was completely inappropriate! then she had the gall to say she can’t think straight as she had a migraine, followed by look at us “I have a crook head and you have a crook arm what a pair”. To me this just highlighted the fact she has no idea about my injury and thinks it can be compared to a bad headache that… Read more »
Joseph
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Hi, unfortunately I’m on the NSW Workers compensation system. I’m fast approaching the 2.5 year cut off entitlements!!! Has anyone on here been through this yet, and could offer some advice?

Workcovervictim3
Guest
@Joseph: In NSW, after 130 weeks a worker must be totally incapacitated or partially incapacitated and have returned to work and be working more than 15 hours a week and earning more than $150.00 a week, to receive weekly compensation and be assessed by the Scheme Agent as being, unlikely to continue indefinitely to be, incapable of undertaking further additional employment or work that would increase the worker’s current weekly earnings. The worker will then receive 80% of average weekly earnings, less their residual earning capacity. Payment of weekly compensation will be dependent on a work capacity determination made by… Read more »
lucy ducy
Guest
I would just like to vent about EML SA I have written to this page before I am an injured worker just over ? years on work cover and late last year I was sent for 2 IME(my case manager stated it was to look at further treatment or what kind of training I made need I asked if they were considering stopping my income maintenance and he said no) and an impairment and following the outcome ended up in a psych hospital and my income maintenance stopped after I came out I submitted a 2nd claim for an acceleration… Read more »
Bashed and bullied
Guest
Nothing surprises me. I got a got a copy of my file notes through (GIPA) and found my case managers even recorded their own lies on the file. They have recorded things they did not do as though they did for example stating dates they are meant to have sent faxes, made phone calls, sent out injury management plans when not one of these were ever received. My insurer, Allianz, advised me in writing they have no means of verifying whether a fax is ever received by the intended and they advised I was sent to an IME because my… Read more »
tony
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Went to an IME who I tell you was that old and what a rude SOB and I have been told that theses IME so called doctors do get threats etc etc but it is not put out in the public forum because it would make the public aware of what happens and maybe somebody would start asking questions kind of like opening pandors box.And too many people make money out of us.

Bashed and bullied
Guest
Absolutely, Tony. You are right about the public not being able to access knowledge on how bad some of these assessors are. It is just so hard to get anyone to listen which is why anyone subjected to a bad assessor must complain so there is evidence in quantity, if not quality. In NSW there are IMEs and if your case goes to the Workers Compensation Commission you will then be assessed by an Approved Medical Specialist who is meant to be totally independent, working for the WCC but these same AMSs can also be used as an IME by… Read more »
tony
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Dear Bashedandbullied,i wonder do these IME ever think beyond the $$$$$$$ and wonder where their money will get them if they did get hurt or seriously injured by someone who they just push over the edge.Would they too be put into the system,ahhhh one could only dream.

Bashed and bullied
Guest

Too rich to have to be on Stat rate. No doubt plenty of money in their bank because of all their “assessments” !! Have seen one assessor claims he has done over 5000 assessments. That’s a nice 5 mil if $1000 each but at times they can get up to $2000. Dr M–k B—s you sure did get bang for your buck!!! Has anyone seen this man? Occ/Physician. Another claims to have done over 10 000- on one of his websites!! Well done Dr D S!! No fear of them losing their houses!!!

suzanne
Guest

hey put there names on so we can all see they cannot get rid of all of us we need to STAND AS ONE THIS IS ALL STATES NAME AND SHAME

Greg
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Total Permanent Disability Claim – Can Anyone Help? Hi, I will keep this brief. Under my Superannuation Insurance I made a claim firstly for Income Protection in 2012, this was accepted and paid at 75% for 2 years. Then in 2013 I made a further claim for TPD, this was accepted and paid in December 2013. However when this payment was made it was a lower amount that was shown on my Statements. Turned out my Employer had reported a lower salary for both claims. It has taken from December till September 1 for my former employer to admit and… Read more »
Bashed and bullied
Guest

Your employer does have to have complete and accurate wage records for taxation purposes as this has to be the basis of superannuation contributions and tax contributions. I don’t know how they could make an error as all wage records are kept so they may claim a clerical error and if they have now remedied this you would not have an recourse I would think. If Comminsure has mucked it around get all your evidence together and you can make a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman. My husband did and the Ombudsman remedied the situation.
Good luck.

Bullied
Guest

greg, for your info TPD is not calculated on your salary. It works like insurance where you buy a set level of cover like $200k or 4 units, with each unit worth a $ amount. If your employer has provided an incorrect salary amount it wont effect the TPD amount of the payment.

suzanne
Guest

Most IME shrinks and DR ‘S are all sad bitter old men who cannot let go of the almighty dollars they get from the insurance ; they are a bunch of leeches feeding on the pain and suffering of us.

tony
Guest

Yes Suzanne,i agree with you.When I went to this place I noticed all the doctors were men and all were old,and all the receptionsts were young girls.They spend all their time earning the $$$$$ do they ever spend it,i just thought to myself while I sat there they must have empty lives and full pockets.But I do believe in KARMA she is my friend and their enemy.

suzanne
Guest
HI ,Just found this site not sure if anyone gives a shit what I think anymore, My only advice is DONT get injured . Silly stupid me did I have two injuries shoulders and knees .Both different claims one has dropped me, but thank god I have the most awesome doctor in the world he has reconstructed both of my shoulders he is in Sydney DR Goldburg , he still see’s me he told me he would not abandon me and leave me in pain ,I have injections into both shoulders every 3 months I will need them both replaced… Read more »
Bashed and bullied
Guest
Hi Suzanne, I had another TMF insurer who did the same to me. I tried to commit suicide after the constant bullying and harassment from the case managers and their supervisors. I just got a copy of my whole file through GIPA from SICorp and it shows their lies and bullying tactics. Go on the SICorp website and find the GIPA request and apply for your file including the file notes to see what they are saying about you. I was sooo grateful to hear that I was “Full of self pity” -Ha! Ha! I think they will be full… Read more »
Workcovervictim
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@suzanne – your story literally sums up what this site is about. It was started when I felt exactly the same way as you do now, out of sheer frustration and total desperation.It saved my life and for that I will always be grateful to my psych who urged me to start this diary. Knowing (well… learning) that I was NOT alone did it, as I initially thought the insurers scummy tactics were aimed at me personally. Not so, it’s part of their training and modus operandi which I came to call SSS – Stall, Starve and then Settle. Thank… Read more »
suzanne
Guest
Thankyou its good to know I am not alone, because I feel so alone most of the time ,I will apply but I don’t think I can read it ,I am doing it very hard at the moment my hubby can read it we have a sick daughter who has been ill nearly her whole life she just had a baby ,her partner walked out he was sick of her being sick and always in hospital ,the baby was an IVF drug baby he walked out when she was only 4 weeks pregnant, she has a little girl age 4… Read more »
Bashed and bullied
Guest
Hi Suzanne, so sorry to hear you have it so hard. Sometimes it seems good people get way more than their share of shit in life. You and your husband are such good people to support your family so well in such difficult circumstances. Obviously you need to take one day at a time or even on hour at times, so look after yourself and take time out when and if you can and remember you are supported by us all even if we don’t even know each others names. You will also get support from Injured Workers Support Network… Read more »
tony
Guest

Hello, can anyone tell me if they have seen an IME prof ivor jones he is a shrink

Workcovervictim3
Guest

@Tony – this IME (Dr Ivor Jones) has, unfortunately, been repeatedly ‘flagged’ by injured workers, expect an UN-dependent assessment. He is listed on our IME list

tony
Guest

Thank you Workcovervictim3,.just what I hoped not to hear but did expect.My shrink said im not to read it just send it to my lawyer as it will only set me back,the only thing I hang onto is it has to end oneday.

Marina/Sybil
Guest

@WCV3 Could u pretty much red flag most IME’s that work at eReports?

Workcovervictim3
Guest

@Marina/Sybil – from what we know ereports has some decent IMEs on board, the ones to watch out for work predominantly for MLCOA

tony
Guest

Yes WCV3,i went to a shrink who works there he was in favour of me,however the insurer never puts his report in my file to the other IME appointments so I carry a copy.

Woowoo
Guest

and the one I saw recommended a review which never eventuated..

Marina/Sybil
Guest

@Porsche47 (below comment) any chance of emailing their names anonymously to workcoverorg@gmail.com? Thnx
@tony, I’ve had similar experiences but they refuse to take the reports. I hear that unless the info comes from the insurer they are not obligated to consider it even if they do accept it. Best advice (although it doesn’t usually help) is to make a formal complaint to the WorkCover Authority. Don’t expect any miracles, they know this stuff goes on all the time. They might action something if it’s seen that their actions are negligent though

Woowoo
Guest

@Marina/Sybil
Whenever I am sent to an IME I am advised by the insurer to take any reports I have with me, I take reports I know they don’t hand over for review. Only one IME gave any advice, I had taken some notes and he said he could take them but he would have to provide a copy to CM. I wasn’t worried about it as it just listed my injuries and restrictions.
If they say they aren’t allowed to take anything its wrong, it just means a bit more work involved for them…

yvonne
Guest
I had reports that Work-cover did not have in their file. I would take them with me but was repeatedly told, if it doesn’t appear in the Work-cover file, they are not obliged to read them/give them attention and that the reason any report/s was in a Work-cover file was because they had accepted them. It was very frustrating! I am in Qld. I also made an official complaint about the Case Manager. I obtained her ‘notes’ and ‘activities’ and was shocked to discover the out and out lies and manipulation of things i had said during phone conversations, to… Read more »
tony
Guest
Dear Yvonne,i have had the same problem when I go to IME app their are always left out reports from doctors their names are on the file but no reports,funny that because these reports are in my favour.When I told one of my many case managers he said I can send which reports I like my answer so can I take which reports I like.Conflict of interest.The IME says were are the missing reports so I give him the copies,as I tell him the file is incomplete and the examination is not based on ALL the facts to date.And there… Read more »
Porsche47
Guest

I’ve been to about 3 different IME’s from reports and they have been ok, two better than one of them but all in all the reports were fairly accurate. I might just be lucky

Marina/Sybil
Guest

I don’t see any star ratings on the list just bolded names (guessing bolded names are ones the Ins Co’s use regularaly) and sometimes a note to see “rateMD”, how can I pick an honest IME in Psychiatry? I need one desperately….

Workcovervictim3
Guest

@Marina/Sybil – on the top of our IME list it states in red that we have problems with our rating forms and that all bold names are the ones flagged by injured workers.
A decent psych IME (VIC) is Dr P Kornan – at least quite a few have been very happy with his honesty.

Marina/Sybil
Guest

@WCV3, thnx. I didn’t see that I have just been too stressed. Is there anyone on ur blog with a legal mind or experience, I think I have found a weak spot in the Law about IE’s that might help everyone.

Bullied
Guest

what is the weak spot in the law on IME????
tell us all so we can use it.

tony
Guest

Hi workcovervictim3,well I went to the IME shrink I was telling you about.What a sad old man nothing better to do with his day.Words could not describe him.Probably has a number plate on his car I LOVE INSURANCE COMPANIES.